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when you saw the nra, both of you have very high marks from the nra for what you've done legislatively. you in north dakota and you in north carolina, and what did you think of their reaction to what happened at sandy hook in connecticut which was to say we need to enhance school safety. we're willing to help wherever we can, but we're not interested in gun legislation. you supported that? >> i did, and i thought that wayne lapierre used good judgment to wait and not come out with a statement right away, and i agree that having security at schools is a good idea, but i don't necessarily think it's a federal government role. i think it's up to communities, states to decide and the schools in my districts, we already have resource officers in every school, so this is something that's being done on a local level in some places, and we ought to look at whether that's good policy everywhere, but, again, i don't think the federal government needs to be involved in funding it or telling states that they have to do it. >> senator, i've got to have it quickly. what did you think of the nra resp
when you saw the nra, both of you have very high marks from the nra for what you've done legislatively. you in north dakota and you in north carolina, and what did you think of their reaction to what happened at sandy hook in connecticut which was to say we need to enhance school safety. we're willing to help wherever we can, but we're not interested in gun legislation. you supported that? >> i did, and i thought that wayne lapierre used good judgment to wait and not come out with a...
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. >> over the last 20 days the nra says one of a dozen people joined out of fear of new debt restrictions. they suspect of four-point to million membership will balloon up to 5 million. and they have declared dead national debt appreciation day for people to rally with signs that say hands off my guns. guns rates groups active donating over $20 million to causes. gun-control -- contributed less than any time in 20 years. $4,000 total. the white house tries to level the playing field by tapping richest -- religious leaders, community leaders and teachers for a town hall rally like the campaign. mayor bloomberg reports 500 on negative board in thousand members since the attack on connecticut including another whose daughter was killed two years ago. >> when we find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby ? >> debbie deferreds was a primary attack and nearly killed. she has established a political action committee to raise $20 million to catch up suzy pro-gun side financing. >> turning back to afghanistan $641 billion was spent over the last decade. we're spending $28 million per day. the n
. >> over the last 20 days the nra says one of a dozen people joined out of fear of new debt restrictions. they suspect of four-point to million membership will balloon up to 5 million. and they have declared dead national debt appreciation day for people to rally with signs that say hands off my guns. guns rates groups active donating over $20 million to causes. gun-control -- contributed less than any time in 20 years. $4,000 total. the white house tries to level the playing field by...
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the nra launches the latest tone deaf attack. this time the group is going after the president himself. plus, more trouble for boeing's 787. a dream liner in japan forced to make an emergency landing. now the entire fleet grounded. we'll tell what you that means for the boeing company straight ahead. >>> also, a minor winter storm causing major travel issues this morning especially in new england. first, let's get to our top story here at 5:30 a.m. there are new developments in the emergency relief for the victims of hurricane sandy. 79 days after the storm reshaped the east coast, the house of representatives last night approved more than $50 billion in aid following a passion pleas from republican and democratic law makers from the areas hardest hit. >> my constituents, the constituents of the northeast, they're not just whining. they're not just uncomfortable. they are devastated! >> there's simply no justifiable reason for the delay unless you believe that when disaster strikes we are all on our own. >> the time for recripple
the nra launches the latest tone deaf attack. this time the group is going after the president himself. plus, more trouble for boeing's 787. a dream liner in japan forced to make an emergency landing. now the entire fleet grounded. we'll tell what you that means for the boeing company straight ahead. >>> also, a minor winter storm causing major travel issues this morning especially in new england. first, let's get to our top story here at 5:30 a.m. there are new developments in the...
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you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
you. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a...
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so that's a sense of the clout that the nra has. i think if anything happens, legislatively, there will be regulatory changes and executive action, if anything happens, it will be smaller, rather than bigger. i think it will be a very hard row to eliminate assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. 40% of all gun sales, there is no background check, maybe if not universal, you will see expansion to that. >> shannon: we will see what recommends out. thank you for the preview of your show. >> you bet. >> shannon: the exclusive interviews and watch "fox news sunday" right after america's news headquarters. chris and leaders of gun groups from both sides tackle the debate over the seconds amendment. you will not want to miss that. folks in beijing are not breathing easy, being told to go indoors for the sake of their health. air pollution in the capitol city is at historic highs. a live report on that, coming up. [ ryon ] eating shrimp at red lobster is a fantastic experience. 30 shrimp for $11.99. i can't imagine anything better. you
so that's a sense of the clout that the nra has. i think if anything happens, legislatively, there will be regulatory changes and executive action, if anything happens, it will be smaller, rather than bigger. i think it will be a very hard row to eliminate assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. 40% of all gun sales, there is no background check, maybe if not universal, you will see expansion to that. >> shannon: we will see what recommends out. thank you for the preview of your...
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colby, will this be a showdown with the nra over an assault weapons ban? >> no, it will not be gunfight at the o.k. corral. they will oppose any effort to do any thing on guns, and they may prevail. and there will probably be some agreement on background checks. to be parochial about this, in the district of columbia it would mean nothing to us regardless of any proposal did last year, the metropolitan police department recovered 1600 firearms. the year before, 2000 firearms. since 2003, more than 20,000 illegal weapons have been recovered in the district of columbia. no legal weapons allowed, and yet we recovered over 20,000 weapons. no legislation is dealing with this problem and a lot of urban problems. >> charles? >> that is exactly the core of the issue, that is the conundrum of the reason the assault weapon ban of the mid-90s, which lasted a decade, had no effect, is because it left existing and circulation the weapons people already had. unless you're going to confiscate, which australia did, but we cannot under the second amendment -- part of our c
colby, will this be a showdown with the nra over an assault weapons ban? >> no, it will not be gunfight at the o.k. corral. they will oppose any effort to do any thing on guns, and they may prevail. and there will probably be some agreement on background checks. to be parochial about this, in the district of columbia it would mean nothing to us regardless of any proposal did last year, the metropolitan police department recovered 1600 firearms. the year before, 2000 firearms. since 2003,...
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. >> the nra is the big issue, but i wouldn't say it's necessarily on the republican side only. it's on the democratic side also. you have fully half of your new senate has either an "a-plus or a-minus rating from the nra, want anything on gun control, you'll have half of the senate upsetting the nra so that's a very difficult proposition. >> there is no more uphill fight than this. the question is do we fight or do we knuckle under? >> reporter: president obama says he wants action on gun legislation this year. he's asked vice president biden to lead a task force to come up with recommendations on gun policy. they are expected this month. athena jones, cnn, washington. >> president obama is headed back to washington today ending his hawaiian vacation. there's a lot on the agenda once he gets back, including a meeting with the president of afghanistan this week. he's also expected to announce a new secretary of defense, likely former senator chuck hagel. he also has to prepare for his second inauguration. here's the president getting hit in the face with a wave during his vacati
. >> the nra is the big issue, but i wouldn't say it's necessarily on the republican side only. it's on the democratic side also. you have fully half of your new senate has either an "a-plus or a-minus rating from the nra, want anything on gun control, you'll have half of the senate upsetting the nra so that's a very difficult proposition. >> there is no more uphill fight than this. the question is do we fight or do we knuckle under? >> reporter: president obama says he...
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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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are democrats as nervous about the nra as they used to be? >> no, they're not. >> reporter: maryland democratic congressman chris van hollen says voters are eager for new gun control laws after newton. >> if you look at the most contested congressional races around the country, they're in the suburbs and in suburban areas i think the weight of public opinion is on the side of commonsense gun safety provisions. >> after biden spent days meeting with different interest groups, the latest being video game maker, the vice president doesn't seem to be in the mood to take on the entertainment industry. >> there's no measure that i'm aware of to be able to determine whether or not there's a coarsening of our culture in a way that is not healthy. >> reporter: democrats say it's up to the white house to make that case. that's why they expect president obama to put a heavy emphasis on gun control in his upcoming state of the union speech next month. martin? >> cnn's jim acosta. thanks very much. >>> so, how did a drunk driving case land on the desk of
are democrats as nervous about the nra as they used to be? >> no, they're not. >> reporter: maryland democratic congressman chris van hollen says voters are eager for new gun control laws after newton. >> if you look at the most contested congressional races around the country, they're in the suburbs and in suburban areas i think the weight of public opinion is on the side of commonsense gun safety provisions. >> after biden spent days meeting with different interest...
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of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin money and big grass roots organization. >> and the thing is bringing the voices in. we need the leadership of the president and i expect the president president to play a strong leadership role. progressive organizations will work in the states and make sure that we have the voice and we wily have the american people and even gun owners who is support these proposals their voices at the table as well. >> chris: mr. pratt, i think you you would agree the national wave of horror over the slaughter of the 20 small children in newtown, last mo
of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin...
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the nra it diminishes their own power. there is not, has not and will not be a proposal to take away anyone's guns or to prevent any wrongful purchase. there obviously are going to be some changes proposed that's different than taking away your gun, but clearly, the nra hopes that that kind of fearmongering will help them influence what eventually comes out of the white house and and i'm sure it will be opposed to the nra and bringing them to the white house for the meeting is an attempt to talk to them and hear their input and it's not better than not having them in at all. >> molly, when lynn brings up fearmongering, the nra is saying that it has gained about 100,000 new members. a lot of people have been giving reports through december whether it's from christmas or not, but gun sales went up. all of this talk has been basically a big gun commercial for people to buy another weapon or load up on magazine clips that they can use at their leisure. do you think that the numbers are true? that we can fact-check the nra on t
the nra it diminishes their own power. there is not, has not and will not be a proposal to take away anyone's guns or to prevent any wrongful purchase. there obviously are going to be some changes proposed that's different than taking away your gun, but clearly, the nra hopes that that kind of fearmongering will help them influence what eventually comes out of the white house and and i'm sure it will be opposed to the nra and bringing them to the white house for the meeting is an attempt to...
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next, a new pro nra video game. that is right, you will never guess what the national libya media is focused on. the a-team will take them a pa part. are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explains a lot. yo, buddy! i got this. gimme one, gimme one, gimme one! the power of the "name your price" tool. only from progressive. lou: liberal plain stream media blasting nra for target shootig it comes a database of state gun laws, cnm, and nbc covering criticism surrending the nra's game release as an app. for some reason those organizations chose to ignore outrage over a new on-line video game in which players are actually they get points for murdering the president of the nra, and creator also developing a simulation of sandy hook shooting, that is not horrifying enough for liberal mainstream media, at least
next, a new pro nra video game. that is right, you will never guess what the national libya media is focused on. the a-team will take them a pa part. are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explains a lot. yo, buddy! i got this. gimme one, gimme one, gimme one! the power...
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next, a new pro nra video game. that is right, you will never guess what the national libya media is focused on. the a-team will take them a par lou: liberal plain stream media blasting nra for target shootig it comes a database of state gun laws, cnm, and nbc covering criticism surrending the nra's game release as an app. for some reason those organizations chose to ignore outrage over a new on-line video game in which players are actually they get points for murdering the president of the nra, and creator also developing a simulation of sandy hook shooting, that is not horrifying enough for liberal mainstream media, at least cnn, and nbc. >> walmart, the initiativeo result in 100,000 hires in in the next 5 years. >> way to go walmart, i have to say, hiring 100,000 veterans, god bless. >> you up next, president, set to unveil his gun control pro % onal tomorrow morning, -- proposal tomorrow morning, we can hardly wait, how about you. 19 executive orders, the a-team taking up the emperious president and so much more
next, a new pro nra video game. that is right, you will never guess what the national libya media is focused on. the a-team will take them a par lou: liberal plain stream media blasting nra for target shootig it comes a database of state gun laws, cnm, and nbc covering criticism surrending the nra's game release as an app. for some reason those organizations chose to ignore outrage over a new on-line video game in which players are actually they get points for murdering the president of the...
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we thank you for being here and for all the nra does and to prove exactly that kind of diligence. much more on the president's push for stricter gun control laws, nothing to do with controlling the second amendment. honest. well, that is a lie, and we will tell it you have it may well affect you as we continue tonight's broadcast. stay with us. so many trying to exploit the sandy hook elementary school massacre raising all sorts of questions. with the disaster have been avoided if his mother's fingerprints were on file? what he had murdered your children if he only had a 10-round magazine? why has the obama administration acted as if no schools should have armed guards when it turns out more than half you do. the president says controlling guns has nothing to do with the second amendment, but the second amendment is so we're talking about tonight in the "chalk talk." white as president obama's a. republicans will make america ad deadbeat nation when he is the one doing all the spending? and why does he want to take away everyone's guns? welcome he claims he doesn't. just two littl
we thank you for being here and for all the nra does and to prove exactly that kind of diligence. much more on the president's push for stricter gun control laws, nothing to do with controlling the second amendment. honest. well, that is a lie, and we will tell it you have it may well affect you as we continue tonight's broadcast. stay with us. so many trying to exploit the sandy hook elementary school massacre raising all sorts of questions. with the disaster have been avoided if his mother's...
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the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started with the election of a black president. >> how so? connect. >> let's remember that in 2008 obama had campaigned for his first election being afraid to mention the words gun and law in the same paragraph. he never said a single thing about gun control, gun safety laws. yet when he was elected, gun stores sold out of guns. gun stores sold out of ammunition because the gun lobby had persuaded them that this guy is coming for your guns. they're already paranoid, extremist -- >> let's get to that overlay. >> they don't like progressive, democratic administrati
the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started...
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and tomorrow two of those will have an audience the nra and wal-mart. today we're getting a look at some of the people who will be shaping the president's second-term cabinet. jack lou will be teshry secretary, and hilda solis will be stepping down. so for more on gun control, gun safety, and the other big issues i'm joined by the great chris pelosi. great to have you back inside "the war room." >> great to be here governor. >> stephanie: yesterday your mom spoke up. here is a sound bite. >> if we come out of the newtown experience and all we do is talk about it and not have a result that would be a dereliction of duty on our part. >> jennifer: are you hearing -- is there any possibility of getting something through congress. >> i think there is. >> jennifer: really? >> the majority of americans agree closing the gun show loopholes. i think if it starts in the senate -- >> jennifer: it would have to start in the senate. >> has to start in the senate is, but i think background checks are very important. most people in america agree we should keep guns ou
and tomorrow two of those will have an audience the nra and wal-mart. today we're getting a look at some of the people who will be shaping the president's second-term cabinet. jack lou will be teshry secretary, and hilda solis will be stepping down. so for more on gun control, gun safety, and the other big issues i'm joined by the great chris pelosi. great to have you back inside "the war room." >> great to be here governor. >> stephanie: yesterday your mom spoke up. here...
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here's the point on the nra ad. many republicans have taken money and not one of them have come out and said that ad is over the top. do you think they should? >> oh, yeah, i think they should. i agree with andrea mitchell's question. why are we invoking the president's children here. why are we making a false equivalency for the president and his family and this issue. this is confusing. >> i'm waiting for speaker boehner to come out and say all of this talk about impeachment, civil war, this is not the republican party that i want to lead. don't make common cause as mitt romney did during the campaign. let's not get involved here with this sort of tactic. >> i don't think they're going to be doing it any time soon. they're taking their lead from the nra. and the nra came out and said it's prepared to do the battle of the century. barack obama and joe biden and their gun allies only want to blame you, vilify you and strip you of your second amendment freedoms. these lines are pretty clear here. is in where the repu
here's the point on the nra ad. many republicans have taken money and not one of them have come out and said that ad is over the top. do you think they should? >> oh, yeah, i think they should. i agree with andrea mitchell's question. why are we invoking the president's children here. why are we making a false equivalency for the president and his family and this issue. this is confusing. >> i'm waiting for speaker boehner to come out and say all of this talk about impeachment,...
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, join the nra. so they are doing what the nra always has done, and that is drawing a very hard and firm line in the sand, very black and white terms. no shades of gray here and no budging on what they fundamentally believe is a threat to the second -- their second amendment rights. and they are, of course, going to be on the hill lobbying democrats, lobbying republicans. so far, you haven't seen any republicans break ranks with the nra. and we'll have to keep an eye on senate democrats. >> and, in fact, marco rubio, chuck, has put out a statement saying that nothing the president is proposing would have stopped the massacre at sandy hook. president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not mu
, join the nra. so they are doing what the nra always has done, and that is drawing a very hard and firm line in the sand, very black and white terms. no shades of gray here and no budging on what they fundamentally believe is a threat to the second -- their second amendment rights. and they are, of course, going to be on the hill lobbying democrats, lobbying republicans. so far, you haven't seen any republicans break ranks with the nra. and we'll have to keep an eye on senate democrats....
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but the nra should not be surprised at this because when they were passing obama care, the nra lobbied the lawmakers and harry reid of nevada made sure it got in to have a provision in there saying patients don't have to answer if they are asked by their doctor whether they have a gun. they are -- patients are protected thanks to the nra. why is the nra guy so surprised that they may be asking? >> bill: answer me this megyn. >> okay. >> bill: the president makes a point in his presentation about guns to mention mental health people all right? he is going to direct them. is he going to give them authority in this area. >> that they may. >> bill: that they may. >> clarifying his law doesn't prohibit. clarifying that indeed they may. >> bill: that's a little bit of spin. >> they have been doing it, bill. they have been doing it. if you are a physician and somebody comes into your office with six gunshot wounds you have a right to ask about the gun. i saw the president and he is not a guy ha ad-libs a lot. this is on the tell prompter specifically point out that he is giving the authority
but the nra should not be surprised at this because when they were passing obama care, the nra lobbied the lawmakers and harry reid of nevada made sure it got in to have a provision in there saying patients don't have to answer if they are asked by their doctor whether they have a gun. they are -- patients are protected thanks to the nra. why is the nra guy so surprised that they may be asking? >> bill: answer me this megyn. >> okay. >> bill: the president makes a point in his...
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i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not about this hard-line political organization. i think the data from gun manufacturers really makes a point that gun owners really need a different organization. >> thank you both for your time this evening. and don't forget to tune into melissa harris-perry saturdays and sundays at 10 a.m. here on msnbc. >>> coming up, president obama's big step towardss -- plus, remember when todd legitimate rape akin said that. what are these people thinking? i guess they're not. >>> and should president obama be on mt. rushmore? it is a question getting a lot of attenti
i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not...
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but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican senators like mark kirk in illinois who have been open in the past on issues like assault weapons bans, and you'll have democrats in the west, the mountain west and the rural south that will be absolutely opposed to it. and as you said earlier, though it is nonsense, and i'm certainly a person who believes that you can be a second amendment supporter, and also have sensible regulations on guns, but this issue plays out on the extremes, on the absurd binary choice that has defined the issue for so long. >> and that analysis, what you said ther
but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican...
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nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do not have to be owned by the average person, and that we come up with a mental health care plan. >> as we talk about patricia what needs to be done on a federal level nationally. what has been done in your community of arizona in the last two years that makes you feel that not only that community has done something to move forward but that can be used as an example for elsewhere? >> well, unfortunately i don't think much has been done at all. our state legislator during the -- right after the shootings decided that it was appropriate to name a state gun. that seemed like a slap in the face. we have a buy ba
nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do...
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and i think the nra -- rachel maddow made this point the other night. it's been so long since they've had to argue this issue, they've been shocked. let's take some reasonable steps to prevent something like newtown from happening again. a lot of people including gun owners are on that side. and i think the freakout helped on the other side. when they say if i don't get what i want, i'm going to start killing people. your first reaction is whoa. >> that's why i wanted to show people when you have freakouts, you usually look freaky in doing them. >> it's a good rule. >> the nra wane lapierre said in december that school should employ armed officers. listen to this, both of you. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. we need to have every single school in america immediately deploy a protection program proven to work. and, by that, i mean armed security. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is to take the gun from him in the first place. and then he's an unarmed bad guy. there's not even logic to that. but
and i think the nra -- rachel maddow made this point the other night. it's been so long since they've had to argue this issue, they've been shocked. let's take some reasonable steps to prevent something like newtown from happening again. a lot of people including gun owners are on that side. and i think the freakout helped on the other side. when they say if i don't get what i want, i'm going to start killing people. your first reaction is whoa. >> that's why i wanted to show people when...
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but remember the nra members don't get a vote here. it's the nra board that runs that organization. we're talking about guys who own soldier of fortune magazine, and ted nugent who are extreme nut cases when it comes to guns. >> john: that's a bit of an offense to nut cases but i see your point and i see little leadership coming from washington, d.c. and the fact that you're out there trying to save lives makes you the real patriots. thank you for your time, thank you for your service. coming up only three things are certain in obama's second term, debt taxes and caving in on debt and taxes--still. every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? >> john: the only news coming out of dc as 2012 came to an end was the fiscal cliff. congress working through christmas and senators having to work on new year's eve. then they finally came up with a deal on taxes so the issue can be put to rest for a long time. thank god we never have to talk about that any more. >> more taxes? >> we're talking about looking at the tax co
but remember the nra members don't get a vote here. it's the nra board that runs that organization. we're talking about guys who own soldier of fortune magazine, and ted nugent who are extreme nut cases when it comes to guns. >> john: that's a bit of an offense to nut cases but i see your point and i see little leadership coming from washington, d.c. and the fact that you're out there trying to save lives makes you the real patriots. thank you for your time, thank you for your service....
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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senator you have an a-rating from the nra and senator blumenthal, an f-rating from the nra. when you look at the ideas that vice president biden is talking about and will submit to the president on tuesday, i want to ask you both what you can support. senator ayotte, can you support the idea of universal background checks. >> chris, let me say i think, i think it would be important that we have the thoughtful discussion about this. we have -- i didn't hear a lot of discussion this morning with your prior guests about also our mental healthsystem. my background before serving in the senate, i was a homicide prosecutor and i come at it from a perspective, taking away the rights of law abiding citizens will not stop a deranged individual or a criminal. that said, should we look at improving our background check system? i'm willing to listen to what proposals come forward on that. but, again, i don't know that that wouldn't have stopped what happened in newtown, and i think we need to be thoughtful in how we go forward with what happens and make sure that whatever is done, actua
senator you have an a-rating from the nra and senator blumenthal, an f-rating from the nra. when you look at the ideas that vice president biden is talking about and will submit to the president on tuesday, i want to ask you both what you can support. senator ayotte, can you support the idea of universal background checks. >> chris, let me say i think, i think it would be important that we have the thoughtful discussion about this. we have -- i didn't hear a lot of discussion this morning...
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the nra wants to protect the rights of hunters to hunt, okay. but when they say, we can't limit the size of an ammunition clip to some sensible number, that we can't check to make sure that an escaped murderer can't go to a gun show and buy a gun or a homicidal maniac can't go to a gun show and buy a gun, that's not sensible anymore, and most americans i think reject that and if they speak out their legislators will reject this. >> roger simon, thank you very much. we really appreciate you joining me. >> thank you. >>> debate is under way on the house floor for aid for victims of superstorm sandy but the house is at odds over how to pay for the bill. lawmakers from states impacted took to the floor earlier to make impassioned pleas. >> my constituents, the constituents of the northeast, they're not just whining. they're not just uncomfortable. they are devastated! >> there's simply no reason for the delay unless you believe that when disaster strikes we are all on our own. >> the time for recriminations is over. let's stand together as americans
the nra wants to protect the rights of hunters to hunt, okay. but when they say, we can't limit the size of an ammunition clip to some sensible number, that we can't check to make sure that an escaped murderer can't go to a gun show and buy a gun or a homicidal maniac can't go to a gun show and buy a gun, that's not sensible anymore, and most americans i think reject that and if they speak out their legislators will reject this. >> roger simon, thank you very much. we really appreciate...
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it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do nothing. they want to instill a kind of fatalism that means that we can't do anything to solve our problems. whether we're talking about guns we're talking about keeping weapons and ammunition out of the hands of bad people. now, this is a problem that society deals with all the time. we try to distinguish bad people from good people. we try to distinguish bad situations from good situations. i don't think our existing laws go far enough in doing that. i think it's obvious they are not working because they haven't prevented the
it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do...
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i did not think the nra ad was a smart move. i thought that the substantive case then made was virtually indisputable. it is the case that there is a double standard. we can debate whether the president deserves to have a double standard, particularly with respect to the secret service. but having said that, the ad in my view may president obama a sympathetic figure in the one way that they did not want to make a sympathetic. lou: you can argue that they could have done a better -- you can argue lots of things, but the fact that they point out very specifically that there is a double standard. the nra was not saying that he did not deserve nor his children deserve that extra protection. we all know that they do. the point is, so does every american and they're children. every one of those young lives is precious to all of us. thank you for being with us. thank you. up next, it has been one year since the president's jobs council hazmat. it has been a year since the president's jobs council hazmat. 23 million folks still without
i did not think the nra ad was a smart move. i thought that the substantive case then made was virtually indisputable. it is the case that there is a double standard. we can debate whether the president deserves to have a double standard, particularly with respect to the secret service. but having said that, the ad in my view may president obama a sympathetic figure in the one way that they did not want to make a sympathetic. lou: you can argue that they could have done a better -- you can...
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so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits. helping to reduce aggression. when people are feeling stressed and angry and they play a video game that has violence in it, they often come out feeling less stressed and angry afterwards. and violent video games are only sold to adults, children cannot buy them, adults can buy them and play them themselves. >> daniel, thank you for taking time out for me, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> absolutely. ach began president, has returned home. and the earth guesting hotter, this year maerked the hottest year on record, how do we analyze this? we will talk about that next. you are watching msnbc
so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits....
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just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my friend and colleague joe scarborough who often speaks common sense from the center right. is it fair to say you're in the center right politically? where would you like to have a third party describe you? i think you are center right. i'm somewhere over to the left, but i think you're somewhere on the other side of the middle point. where are you? >> you know, for the most part i'm where i was when i was in congress. 95% conservative rating. and we could start a debate right now over debt. let me just -- because this is an importa
just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my...
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show moderation, you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz, are right out in front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize-winning columnist. thank you both for joining us. you have been in this fight for so long, congresswoman mccarthy. i have to ask you, is there something out there in the water that's changed or are we confronting the old power of the nra? >> well, certainly we are confronting them. we'll always be able to confront them, but this time is different, and i think that the american people are realizing on how radical they actually are. you know, when you see the polls, most people in america support what we're trying to do, even nra members, so that this time is different. i th
show moderation, you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz, are right out in front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize-winning columnist....
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as i mentioned, you know, congress is controlled by the nra. the nra is all about selling guns. federal gun policy is about unrestricted access to guns. tie law enforcement's hands. have more mass shootings, more high profile mass shootings. more fear. more gun sales. more profits. >> but specifically, this gun appreciation day that will take place two days before the inauguration. >> it's all about selling more guns. and intimidating members of congress and the president to not do anything. mitch mcconnell laid it out nice and clearly. the fact that 3,000 americans die every day, 3,000 every month and 600 since newtown, and he's saying that's not an emergency? 87 dead americans every day and the fiscal cliff or debt ceiling is more important than 87 families burying their children and family members every day? that is immoral. and the nra is immoral. and let's face it. the gun industry controls congress and until the people take back their congress, it's going to be more massacres, more gun sales, more money back to the nra supporters in congress. >> let's get in you on this, m
as i mentioned, you know, congress is controlled by the nra. the nra is all about selling guns. federal gun policy is about unrestricted access to guns. tie law enforcement's hands. have more mass shootings, more high profile mass shootings. more fear. more gun sales. more profits. >> but specifically, this gun appreciation day that will take place two days before the inauguration. >> it's all about selling more guns. and intimidating members of congress and the president to not do...
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many nra members agree with these common sense gun laws. it is a very small number of nra lobbyists, gun industry advocates who are really not representing the will of their own membership. so part of what is important for all of us people of faith, nra members, all of us, is to make sure that we do not let a small number of profiteering nra executives hijack this conversation and cause us to miss this moment, to make sure that our children can live in neighborhoods, schools free from the fear of gun violence. and i believe that we're up for the challenge. >> reverend michael mcbride, pleasure to see you this morning. thank you. >> thank you, randi. god bless you. >>> so how much can you really tell about a person from his or her handwriting? we'll talk to one document examiner about what to look for the next time you read a letter. >>> when lew splaped his fiscal philosophy, saying, quote, i describe budgets of tapestry. when it's woven together, it amounts to the hopes and dreams of our nation. >> president obama announced the nomination
many nra members agree with these common sense gun laws. it is a very small number of nra lobbyists, gun industry advocates who are really not representing the will of their own membership. so part of what is important for all of us people of faith, nra members, all of us, is to make sure that we do not let a small number of profiteering nra executives hijack this conversation and cause us to miss this moment, to make sure that our children can live in neighborhoods, schools free from the fear...